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Michael Banks
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Most of the models I work with right now are just friends of mine from school.  I shoot with them all the time and since we have worked together often, it's really easy to get into the flow of things.  However, I want to add some more "regulars" to my core group of three models.  I have had little luck with MM or MI because there aren't many models in my area on either, and most of the ones that are on either site are very inactive.

This brings me to my question.  Do you ever try to recruit new models and how would you suggest doing it? 

I've done a lot of asking and have had mixed results.  As a theater major, I have many gorgeous actor acquaintances who I have worked with who seem enthusiastic when I talk to them about modeling but never respond when I try to actually set something up.  One of them has a summer job as an honest-to-god Disney princess at Disneyworld and is just gorgeous!  On the other hand, I was at a party and this knockout beauty walks in.  A mutual friend who was sitting with me on the couch called her over, introduced me, and suggested that she model for me.  I just got a message from her that she loves my portfolio and that she wants to work with me.  I'm going to set up a senior portrait style shoot for next week on one of the local college campuses to help beef up my portfolio in that area and I think that a shoot like this is a good way for a photographer and model to get to know each other in a safe / low pressure environment.

I've spent all the money I have, and a lot more that I don't on my gear, and it's not like the paid shoots are pouring in right now so I don't have a lot I can spend on models.  If I were going to spend money, it would be on an experienced and established model whose images I know will be a great addition to my port.

What has been your experience?  Any horror stories?  Is the thought that every male photographer is just a GWC ingrained in the minds of most beautiful women?

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I don't ask strangers to model.  Of course, in my mind a stranger is just someone I haven't met, and I'd never ask someone I haven't met to model.  big_smile

Having said that, I ask acquaintances to model regularly.  I tend to get similar results as yours.  That is, enthusiasm until it's time to actually do something.  Only after a fair amount of time and effort have I come up with a few (very few) regular subjects.  My suggestion is to keep plugging away. 

I've found that it helps some if I stay away from the term "modeling" for those not at least familiar with the business.  It seems to imply something it isn't to them for some reason.  I have better luck explaining that I'm trying to expand my selection of "samples of my work" and offer a complimentary session in exchange for being able to use the images.  Yes, I know it's the same thing.  It avoids the term "modeling"  or worse "will you pose for me", and seems to avoid whatever the hidden stigma is with that term or phrase.

The flip side is, I have a much smaller rate of no-shows with the acquaintance group once they've actually made the commitment than I've ever had with internet models.  Seems to make it worth a little extra trouble.

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Joe Fogg Photography
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I've tried the asking complete stranger to model or pose for shots off the street and have gotten a wide range of answers and the results of those will never be seen in my portfolio... i'm not saying that it won't work for you tho so give it a try and see what type of results you get.

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Next week I'm going to be shooting a couple of "alternative" models for some articles I'm writing, and that style is outside what I normally do.  So they invited me to observe a photo shoot with a local photographer who specializes in it.  The shoot was held in a grunge bar.

At the bar was an attractive, mid-twenties woman who really wanted to be in the shoot, but who wasn't dressed the part.  I showed her my book, and she decided she wanted to shoot with me.  We've scheduled it for tomorrow evening; I'll let you know if it worked out.  smile

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John Rayner
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The few times I have tried with relative strangers, I have gotten the "what the Fluck" look and then watch them run in shear terror. With aquatinces, I get enough double talk to choke a horse, then watch them run in shear terror. It gets depressing some days.

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Peter Flanagan
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Suggesting to strangers in a bar or club that modeling might be for them is one thing, but approaching strangers in a mall or someplace like that might get you beat up here in the Chicago area.

Asking acquaintances to pose for you may freak them out since the consensus is that photographers are all pervs.

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Several weeks ago I was tasked with finding a male model that looked like a body builder. We needed this person for some Navistar ads and the client didn't want to use standard agencies because the talent usage numbers were a budget killer. It so happens I was on my way to pick up my daughter when I noticed this monster guy cutting his grass. I stopped the car, got out and introduced myself, and took iPhone shots of him for client approval. He did the job, made a nice hunk of change and everyone was happy.

I do stuff like that all the time.

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I've done it quite a few times, but my experiences may not be representative of the norm since I'm a 22 year old, female, college student.

I tend to ask people in my classes if they're ever interested in posing.  I usually have my iPhone ready, with my models album up, and I show them some of my work.  I've been turned down a few times, but for the most part, the people agree and we set up a shoot.

The shoots tend to be a bit stiff at first, but after ten minutes or so, they start to lighten up and the shoot starts to flow.

I don't ask too many strangers to shoot at this point, mostly because my schedule has become super hectic, but I do have one upcoming shoot with a theater major at my school.  Ugh.  So excited.  She has the most beautiful features, and a really outgoing personality.

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Emeritus wrote:

<SNIP> ...We've scheduled it for tomorrow evening; I'll let you know if it worked out.  smile

And???

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Rob Domaschuk Photography wrote:

Emeritus wrote:

<SNIP> ...We've scheduled it for tomorrow evening; I'll let you know if it worked out.  smile

And???

Here's a surprise:  she flaked smile

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Michael Banks wrote:

Do you ever try to recruit new models and how would you suggest doing it?

I just try to be brief, nonthreatening, give them a way to contact me if interested, & specifically tell them that I don't need an answer immediately.

Also I don't advise using any of the following phrases: art, pose, or nudity. They all psychologically translate to being porn whether it was remotely what you had in mind or not. Don't ask me why.

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I've done a lot of asking and have had mixed results.  As a theater major, I have many gorgeous actor acquaintances who I have worked with who seem enthusiastic when I talk to them about modeling but never respond when I try to actually set something up.  One of them has a summer job as an honest-to-god Disney princess at Disneyworld and is just gorgeous!  On the other hand, I was at a party and this knockout beauty walks in.  A mutual friend who was sitting with me on the couch called her over, introduced me, and suggested that she model for me.  I just got a message from her that she loves my portfolio and that she wants to work with me.  I'm going to set up a senior portrait style shoot for next week on one of the local college campuses to help beef up my portfolio in that area and I think that a shoot like this is a good way for a photographer and model to get to know each other in a safe / low pressure environment.

That's your in! Actors can always use headshots whether they realize it or not.

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What has been your experience?  Any horror stories?  Is the thought that every male photographer is just a GWC ingrained in the minds of most beautiful women?

Think of it like a numbers game. The more people you ask to work w/ you, you increase the liklihood in someone actually responding. Though in my experience the actual percentages stay about the same. So you have to ask a lot & NOT be afraid of rejection. You're looking for the person that will say yes & follow through on it. Not the 90% that will say no.

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I hand out business cards all the time. Just got a call today from a gal I had almost forgotten about, wanting some shots for a comp card and asking my rates smile

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All the models I have shot were internet models in this type of sites. Some are startup and don't have much experience but they have a better understanding. I don't think I would contact someone on the street if I am working on a project that have no sense of what they are doing.

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Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

I stopped the car, got out and introduced myself, and took iPhone shots of him for client approval. He did the job, made a nice hunk of change and everyone was happy.

I do stuff like that all the time.

you take pics of muscular dudes cutting lawns all the time???

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Kevlar Vest Girl
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As often as possible. Sometimes I offer them fee balloons as an incentive to shoot with me.

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John Rayner
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Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

As often as possible. Sometimes I offer them fee balloons as an incentive to shoot with me.

I thought thor used the ballons?

Just don't pass out candy... lol

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Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

As often as possible. Sometimes I offer them fee balloons as an incentive to shoot with me.

that made me laff so hard, a tiny bit of poop escaped me...*TRUE*

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vxf wrote:

Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

As often as possible. Sometimes I offer them fee balloons as an incentive to shoot with me.

that made me laff so hard, a tiny bit of poop escaped me...*TRUE*

TMI... TMI... No pics please.

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I have a secret weapon: I moonlight a couple of nights a week as a bouncer. Hot chicks come in and out of the bar all the time. They see some of my work hanging on the wall in the bar. It's a foot in the door. I've recruited more than a few non-industry people to model for me just by spending a few hours a week getting paid to pick up empty beer bottles and check ID's.

Facebook has also been a tremendous resource, recruiting "friends of friends". I've been quite successful with that.

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Yeah.. I've asked complete strangers..

"Excuse me, I'm a photographer and notice you have lovely hair / features / smile*.. "
Present card
"Have a look at my website and let me know if you are interested.."
Smile.. then walk away..

* = pick a feature

It works 1 in 10 times... Try to keep it short and sweet.. and professional!

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toesup wrote:

Yeah.. I've asked complete strangers..

"Excuse me, I'm a photographer and notice you have lovely hair / features / smile*.. "
Present card
"Have a look at my website and let me know if you are interested.."
Smile.. then walk away..

* = pick a feature

It works 1 in 10 times... Try to keep it short and sweet.. and professional!

-Straight forward and simple
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I am a professional photographer.
Like any other business man i advertise and do so effectively or i would not be in business.
Because i advertise effectively they come to me and ask how much.
Guy;s begging girls for attention never worked as no one is impressed nor should they be with panhandling.
I have never talked to a stranger about a session whithout telling them my rates.
I am busy and have been a full time photographer for 5 years.
My competition is over 500 guys with cameras begging for attention in my city so the truth is:
Beggars cannot be choosers - is still true today.

I cannot teach you how to deal with women - if you do not already know - but i might suggest shooting dogs - they are much easier to deal with and the owners usually love to see thier pet get some attention. 

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proshotphoto wrote:

I am a professional photographer.
Like any other business man i advertise and do so effectively or i would not be in business.
Because i advertise effectively they come to me and ask how much.
Guy;s begging girls for attention never worked as no one is impressed nor should they be with panhandling.
I have never talked to a stranger about a session whithout telling them my rates.
I am busy and have been a full time photographer for 5 years.
My competition is over 500 guys with cameras begging for attention in my city so the truth is:
Beggars cannot be choosers - is still true today.

I cannot teach you how to deal with women - if you do not already know - but i might suggest shooting dogs - they are much easier to deal with and the owners usually love to see thier pet get some attention. 

smile

In my area of business, what the OP is referring to is known as street casting. Street casting has nothing to do with TFanything, it is a legitimate and valuable part of the normal routine of a commercial photographer who specializes in people oriented imagery. Your post is rather short sighted.

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Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:


In my area of business, what the OP is referring to is known as street casting. Street casting has nothing to do with TFanything, it is a legitimate and valuable part of the normal routine of a commercial photographer who specializes in people oriented imagery. Your post is rather short sighted.

In commercial photography the number of very unusual types clients want for photo shoots requires street casting - and in fact, agencies do it also, quite often, to meet some of those requirements.

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What is being asked for here is some better pick up lines or as you might call them streat casting BAIT.
It has been called a casting couch in the past too.

Like how do i fool the innocent fish in to bighting and maybe doing stuff she too often regrets later.  LOL

Truth probably will not help.
You look pretty unusual and great for some modelling gigs if your cheap, free and available to work for nothing.
If you tell that truth you do not need a line to bull shit them but you will probably not be successful.

Try (Hey honey your the hottest babe on the planet and I can make you a star) LOL

something like that works probably pretty well
after all if your going for the bull shit lines why not blow it way out of promotion.

Those who make it as models or photographers are skilled business people and they have to work very hard to promote themselves professionally and the last thing anyone needs ot the scam they your the ONE who will Discover her. 

Tell them the real truth - chances are you will only get some free photos out of the deal but that is were my advise stops cause i am in this for ME not you.

Even when i was younger looking for a girlfriend i could not understand the bull shit scams guys come up with to sell themselves and that is what this thread is about.

I will probably get a reply again saying WHO ME - NOT ME I am offended.  lol