vxf wrote:

you will have to look up the site(s) yerself, but at six hundred bucks a shoot, this amounts to paid rape...whilst i can appreciate a naked chic or two lesbians rolling around, the psychological impact of a shoot to a typical gal can not be measured.

I know a number of models who've worked for Kink, as well as similar sites like HardTied, and the psychological impact is generally nil.  For one thing it's staged and not nearly as harsh as it looks, for another many of the participants engage in such activities in their personal lives for fun.

please do not get me wrong...i LOVE lesbians...but as a combat vet, i can say with absolute authority, combat troops *sans the remf's* NEED to decompress after such a traumatic experience...i would wager that a young woman is not able to fully comprehend the ramification of their actions.

ps...the photo sums up my love of the subject matter...please note...it is not my image...i wish i could shoot those two together.

i was saddened at getting paid such a paltry amount  for being being HORRIFICALLY violated...

vxf wrote:

you will have to look up the site(s) yerself, but at six hundred bucks a shoot, this amounts to paid rape...whilst i can appreciate a naked chic or two lesbians rolling around, the psychological impact of a shoot to a typical gal can not be measured.

At least two of the professional models I've worked with have been part of this stuff although probably not at the levels you're referring to. The fact that these sites are so well established shows that you may be surprised at the amount of willing participants. I'm guessing no-one forces them into it although the after effects must be interesting. From what I understand some of the 'clients' for these videos are lawyers, architects, doctors et al so as we say, go figure. Personally I find it difficult to watch.

As long as the participates are willing members, then what harm can it be? Not everyone does only missionary, in the dark, under the covers and fully clothed.

Well, I consider myself a pretty typical girl.  Married once, almost divorced, 3 beautiful kids, not on meds, not a substance abuser of any type (unless you count caffeine and nicotine).  Stable home life for the most part, well-adjusted and intelligent, articulate and capable.

I worked for HatrdTied.com and TopGrl.com. Loved doing both sets.  I've worked for thebondagechannel.com, done lots of DID and bondage, lots of BDSM, inordinate amounts of fetish work.  It was, and still is, my genre of choice.  I've also done some lower level mainstream adult work.

None of it has had a negative impact on me, personally.  I showed up, did my job, picked up my paycheck, gave hus and handshakes all around, and went on my merry way.  I'd do any of those BDSM/fetish sets again in a heartbeat, because I enjoyed them.

As a general rule, fetish and BDSM sets are some of the most relaxed, professional and AWARE sets to be on.  The people involved know what they are doing, how to do it safely, and are consummate professionals.  Most of the girls I know who are in the fetish modeling world are also into the lifestyle, and we're definitely not shell-shocked, trembling little virgins. 

You personally may not be capable of comprehending or dealing with the type of sexuality and scenarios we portray.  Please do not assume that we are being taken advantage of, however, as it casts blemishes on OUR work and OUR reputations.

I love my work.  I will be doing this kind of stuff long after I have passed my ability to model professionally.  I don't criticize what you choose as riht for you, please, offer the same respect for me and don't make assumptions about what kind of woman I am because of how I am shown on film and video.

There is a VERY good reason why I am The Original Sin.

The Original Sin wrote:

Well, I consider myself a pretty typical girl.  Married once, almost divorced, 3 beautiful kids, not on meds, not a substance abuser of any type (unless you count caffeine and nicotine).  Stable home life for the most part, well-adjusted and intelligent, articulate and capable.

I worked for HatrdTied.com and TopGrl.com. Loved doing both sets.  I've worked for thebondagechannel.com, done lots of DID and bondage, lots of BDSM, inordinate amounts of fetish work.  It was, and still is, my genre of choice.  I've also done some lower level mainstream adult work.

None of it has had a negative impact on me, personally.  I showed up, did my job, picked up my paycheck, gave hus and handshakes all around, and went on my merry way.  I'd do any of those BDSM/fetish sets again in a heartbeat, because I enjoyed them.

As a general rule, fetish and BDSM sets are some of the most relaxed, professional and AWARE sets to be on.  The people involved know what they are doing, how to do it safely, and are consummate professionals.  Most of the girls I know who are in the fetish modeling world are also into the lifestyle, and we're definitely not shell-shocked, trembling little virgins. 

You personally may not be capable of comprehending or dealing with the type of sexuality and scenarios we portray.  Please do not assume that we are being taken advantage of, however, as it casts blemishes on OUR work and OUR reputations.

I love my work.  I will be doing this kind of stuff long after I have passed my ability to model professionally.  I don't criticize what you choose as riht for you, please, offer the same respect for me and don't make assumptions about what kind of woman I am because of how I am shown on film and video.

There is a VERY good reason why I am The Original Sin.

I couldn't say it any better. 

I shoot bondage and fetish- with both models, and lifestylers.  I know a few models who have shot with HogTied and DeviceBondage, and none of them have suffered in the slightest from their experiences.  These people are professionals.  They know what they are doing.  There is an old saying in the BDSM world:  if you break your toys, you can't play with them any more.

Rosalind wrote:

The biggest one, outside of what Maso-Arts stated above, is SSC, or Safe Sane Consensual (I know RACK is a big one as well but i'm not as familiar with that one). 

I didn't want to hijack this thread, so I posted about SSC vs. RACK over in this post in the Off-Topic forum.

I do appreciate this thread.  I have taken a recent interest in Bondage / Domination style photography.  I am at the beginning stages of learning about Rope.  There are many misconceptions and with that being so I will be creating a new site for my work.  I have had trouble locating non-model clients for portrait work due to my model work.  So I am a strict believer in keeping your genre's of work separate that do not play nicely together.

Anyone that is involved within the "Community" or "Lifestyle" is involved due to their personal choice.  Money is what makes things happen but it is not what makes the world go round. 

I only ask that we all take the time to respect one another opinion's and keep in mind that as passionate we are about our view the other person is as well.

Keep shooting and creating because BEAUTY is all about your eye not others...

Calvin H.
WestOUT Photography
**Future Rope Twister**

Not hiding it.  But to someone that looks at it that way can feel that way.

I just have found it easier to split up my work because a person looking for family portraits rarely wants to see half naked models.  So I am creating unique site for each style to cater better to their needs.

Very good.  Appreciate those kind words...


C.

The Original Sin wrote:

Well, I consider myself a pretty typical girl.  Married once, almost divorced, 3 beautiful kids, not on meds, not a substance abuser of any type (unless you count caffeine and nicotine).  Stable home life for the most part, well-adjusted and intelligent, articulate and capable.

I worked for HatrdTied.com and TopGrl.com. Loved doing both sets.  I've worked for thebondagechannel.com, done lots of DID and bondage, lots of BDSM, inordinate amounts of fetish work.  It was, and still is, my genre of choice.  I've also done some lower level mainstream adult work.

None of it has had a negative impact on me, personally.  I showed up, did my job, picked up my paycheck, gave hus and handshakes all around, and went on my merry way.  I'd do any of those BDSM/fetish sets again in a heartbeat, because I enjoyed them.

As a general rule, fetish and BDSM sets are some of the most relaxed, professional and AWARE sets to be on.  The people involved know what they are doing, how to do it safely, and are consummate professionals.  Most of the girls I know who are in the fetish modeling world are also into the lifestyle, and we're definitely not shell-shocked, trembling little virgins. 

You personally may not be capable of comprehending or dealing with the type of sexuality and scenarios we portray.  Please do not assume that we are being taken advantage of, however, as it casts blemishes on OUR work and OUR reputations.

I love my work.  I will be doing this kind of stuff long after I have passed my ability to model professionally.  I don't criticize what you choose as riht for you, please, offer the same respect for me and don't make assumptions about what kind of woman I am because of how I am shown on film and video.

There is a VERY good reason why I am The Original Sin.

I love you.