Meh...If they don't say it up front one way or the other, you'll never know if you never ask.  Just continue to be properly polite and professional in your inquiries and solicitations, and if they get bent, fuck 'em for not being professional and polite in return.  Another check mark in the "next" list.

Some people probably don't even understand what they mark as a gener...I do not feel that the OP was wrong for asking since the model had it marked...The same happends with adult work I have seen lots of models mark that as a gener but had no idea what it really was...Sometimes I guess you just have to ask and hope that who your contacting really understands what they are advertising..

Through out the years that I have been working with models, you really never know what kind of response you will come accross no matter what you ask about shooting. But one of my solid guidelines is to read over what the model states in the profile or what type of work they display in the portfolio pictures. For me, unless the model states that they are interested in nude work or there is nudity in the portfolio, I don't ask. If there is something that I am still interested in doing pictures of then make the connection during a shoot. Then approach the subject one on one. You should be able to get the feel if the model is interested in that type of work or not.

Marc/Tiny

Tiny K wrote:

Through out the years that I have been working with models, you really never know what kind of response you will come accross no matter what you ask about shooting. But one of my solid guidelines is to read over what the model states in the profile or what type of work they display in the portfolio pictures. For me, unless the model states that they are interested in nude work or there is nudity in the portfolio, I don't ask. If there is something that I am still interested in doing pictures of then make the connection during a shoot. Then approach the subject one on one. You should be able to get the feel if the model is interested in that type of work or not.

Marc/Tiny

Marc...that's how I usually do things...TOTAL agreement with you.  What bugs me, is the occasion where a friend of mine will write me and send me a link to a model port and say, "Look who I'm working with next," and there's absolutely no nudity/fetish/bondage on her page.  (shrugs)  Dunno how they do it...lmao.

But yeah...I'll continue to act above board and just be the polite guy I always am...best you can do, right?

She didn't need to be such a bitch about it. Sheesh.

I've known models to check the "adult" boxes on OMP because they were over 21. Simply stated, some folks don't know the meanings of the stuff on various sites and don't take the time to find out.

As long as you're polite in your approach, who cares if the model gets rude in a reply? That's on her, not on you. (Same goes for models who get rude replies from photographers.)

Iona Lynn wrote:

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Did a verbal tongue lashing actually hurt you in any way?
Nope, it did not.

You choose to live outside societies rules so you have chosen to have society tell you that once in a while.

It is the choice you made, if you want every one to agree with what you do give up the ropes and shoot kittens instead.   

Just accept that for every 50 people you contact you will get 3 pieces of hate mail... accept it and live a happier life then those who live by others rules instead of their own.

Shoot KITTENS?!  Fate worse than death, lovely lady...lol.

Yah, you're right...I'll never know until I ask...it's all about communication, isn't it?  Thanks for that...made perfect sense.

I know this is an old thread, but since TT is roughly in my area I want to know who it is so I can avoid them. She sounds like a PITA.

Just ask.  If they respond badly- that's THEIR fault for having no manners or communication skills.  You certainly seem to have been perfectly upfront and polite in your request.

brent847 wrote:

I have seen listings  where a model has checked yes to nudity but when you read their profile  they state they dont do nudity  I wonder if they are pulling something or  just arnt clever.

They might have changed their minds and forgotten to uncheck the box.  She might say it in her profile to deter certain photographers.  She might have inadvertently checked the box when setting up other things she was interested in.  Assuming a model is an idiot isn't really all that cool.

brent847 wrote:

you could allways try the "3rd person" option  if the model knows another model that might be open to that type of content.
that approach would make it a little less personal

I was going to try a similar approach with shy models  by asking them to  reply to my questions they might be personally uncomfortable with by  thinking of themselves as a go between for a ficticious friend. my thinking is that it would allow them to be objective.

If I got a message from a photographer that said, "do you know anyone who's interested in X, Y or Z?" I'd answer them honestly and then be done with it.  Either I'd recommend people (and I have), or I wouldn't because I didn't know, and I'll let him know.  I most certainly wouldn't assume it was a passive-aggressive way of him asking me if *I* was interested in that, especially if it was something I said I wasn't interested in doing.

Better to be honest than skirt around the issue, and just ask directly if you want to know.

brent847 wrote:

Whatever  seems like a prety simple fix  to uncheck a box

Many models manage multiple profiles on a variety of modeling sites.  I personally have profiles on MI, MM, OMP, Illinois Modeling Network, Green Martini, Model Brigade, and Paid Models, just off the top of my head.  Oh, and FaceBook and MySpace, plus a blog.  It's rather easy to overlook something.  In fact, I know that my MB and PM profiles are out of date... but I never get work from either of those sites, because most of the membership overlaps on MI and/or MM, so I choose to make sure my profiles are updated on the sites I get work from.  The others, I see as... a spot to secure my username.

brent847 wrote:

very true   ive even been debating about using the 3rd person approach with shy models  because if they arnt adult or mature enough to talk through an interview/audition  there would most likely be more difficulties down the road like during the shoot.

If a model is shy, asking her if she can recommend friends to you isn't going to bring her out of her shell.  In fact, as a newer photographer, I wouldn't recommend working with a shy model until you've worked with some who are less shy.  You'll find the more experience YOU have, the easier it will be for YOU to help shier models open up during a shoot.  And I'm talking in general, not when it comes to them getting naked.  In many cases, being shy has nothing to do with getting naked.  Ask around, and you'll find that I'm far from shy, yet I won't shoot nude.

Your best bet is to be direct when communicating with models.  Largely, it will lessen the confusion, and that will lessen the possibility of drama should you actually a book a shoot.

Playing games, pretending there's a third person, going back and forth about pre-shoot contracts, and bullshit like that is a huge waste of time for a model, especially if she's one who's serious about modeling.