PixiStix wrote:

man, if i get enough paying gigs to survive off modeling, i would totally be an alt model. but nobody wants to pay me! it always goes like this: photog-"omg you look great, want to shoot?" me-"i'd love to. is my normal rate ok with you, or would you like to negotiate?" photog-"oh, well, i was thinking tfp..."

has only gotten 3 paying gigs in her 2 or 3 year modeling career. and is very sad about that. "i'm a good model! i swear!"~~~> ~Stick~

I know PixiStix didn't ask for a critique, and I'm not trying to give one. But her statement prompted a question.
What if I disagreed with her assessment of her skill level, and had thoughts that I felt might be advantageous to her. Is that accepted here, or is it only accepted in a critique forum? For instance, I'm thinking that she probably needs some harder images in her folio, or some decidedly normal figure studies to attract alt photographers. Can I say that? 

Never mind, I just read the rules. I didn't want to edit my copy for fear PixiStix would think I said something mean.

The rules stated on THIS lounge are no unsolicited critiques.

But if pixi was smart she would open her self up for advice from those who can give it.

The Model Insider wrote:

M. Carle wrote:

The rules stated on THIS lounge are no unsolicited critiques.

But if pixi was smart she would open her self up for advice from those who can give it.

Ah, my apologies, I neglected to note which lounge I was in.

Yes, lounge hosts have authority over their own areas, so Iona's lounge, Iona's rules.

Bob? Want a lounge? You can set a rule that says unsolicited critiques are allowed in your lounge for anyone who posts in there...

Dangerous! You could call it several different things...
-Bob Randall Picks Apart Your Shit Forum.
-Bob Randall Crushes Your Dreams Forum.
-Bob Randall's (Antichrist) Crituque Forum
-Bob Randall's You Don't Know Shit About Photoshop Forum.
-Bob Randall's I'm Trying To Teach You Something, But You Are Too Dumb To Learn Forum. <<< Special one for me!
-Bob Randall's Squeal Like A Piggy Boy Forum.

Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

PixiStix wrote:

man, if i get enough paying gigs to survive off modeling, i would totally be an alt model. but nobody wants to pay me! it always goes like this: photog-"omg you look great, want to shoot?" me-"i'd love to. is my normal rate ok with you, or would you like to negotiate?" photog-"oh, well, i was thinking tfp..."

has only gotten 3 paying gigs in her 2 or 3 year modeling career. and is very sad about that. "i'm a good model! i swear!"~~~> ~Stick~

I know PixiStix didn't ask for a critique, and I'm not trying to give one. But her statement prompted a question.
What if I disagreed with her assessment of her skill level, and had thoughts that I felt might be advantageous to her. Is that accepted here, or is it only accepted in a critique forum? For instance, I'm thinking that she probably needs some harder images in her folio, or some decidedly normal figure studies to attract alt photographers. Can I say that? 

Never mind, I just read the rules. I didn't want to edit my copy for fear PixiStix would think I said something mean.

Eh.
I'm pretty lenient on that rule - not like that other site.
I'm not locking or editing your post. It's the type of thing that I think is O.K., but I fully realize I'm going to have to revise the Underground Lounge rules at some point to clarify things a bit. There's also going to be a genre-specific critique thread soon (Bringing the DCP over here from MM was one of the reasons for starting this lounge).

Until I have time to deal with it, I'm just going to word the rule a little differently.
(Yes, I am making it up as I go along)

The Model Insider wrote:

Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

I know PixiStix didn't ask for a critique, and I'm not trying to give one. But her statement prompted a question.
What if I disagreed with her assessment of her skill level, and had thoughts that I felt might be advantageous to her. Is that accepted here, or is it only accepted in a critique forum? For instance, I'm thinking that she probably needs some harder images in her folio, or some decidedly normal figure studies to attract alt photographers. Can I say that? 

Never mind, I just read the rules. I didn't want to edit my copy for fear PixiStix would think I said something mean.

actually, i would like to say thank you for the advice. i know my portfolio looks limited right now. i do have some harder images, but i have been using my husband's computer and can't get to them because mine is dead right now. you will be seeing them in about two weeks.

PixiStix wrote:

man, if i get enough paying gigs to survive off modeling, i would totally be an alt model. but nobody wants to pay me! it always goes like this: photog-"omg you look great, want to shoot?" me-"i'd love to. is my normal rate ok with you, or would you like to negotiate?" photog-"oh, well, i was thinking tfp..."

has only gotten 3 paying gigs in her 2 or 3 year modeling career. and is very sad about that. "i'm a good model! i swear!"~~~> ~Stick~

Dear Ms Stix
There is something about your having only gotten three paying gigs in several years that has touched my usually cold, hard, tiny, heart.  I'll give you $150.  for three hours of modeling (from 6:30 pm to 9:30 pm, on a Tues or Thur).  Of course that's not much money, but it's better than a poke in the eye with a pointed stick.  I need to mention that the modeling style will be nude (undressed, naked, no clothing, bare).  On the downside, this is in Manhattan - just about as far from Watertown is you can get & still be in NY.  (Well I guess Buffolo, & Danamora might be further.) And, yes, I have a local model reference in Watertown you can check me out with, Ellie Mae; although I think she is mostly a photographer these days.  I can do this because I'm NYC's number one organizer of nude photography workshops (according to me).  For more information see:  . Check my website if you like: .  If need be I can find a dozen or so additional model references, although only a few, at best, frequent this very fine web site.  This offer is only good for a few months, Sept 2009 at the latest, & is void if I die first.

Hey, I bet it's cold in Watertown tonight!

SLE Photography wrote:

Gibson Photo Art wrote:

Dangerous! You could call it several different things...
-Bob Randall Picks Apart Your Shit Forum.
-Bob Randall Crushes Your Dreams Forum.
-Bob Randall's (Antichrist) Crituque Forum
-Bob Randall's You Don't Know Shit About Photoshop Forum.
-Bob Randall's I'm Trying To Teach You Something, But You Are Too Dumb To Learn Forum. <<< Special one for me!
-Bob Randall's Squeal Like A Piggy Boy Forum.

   Chris, can we make the titles rotate?  Those're all good.

I would live on this forum